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Sunday, March 8, 2009

Listening For Understanding

My quest for understanding is about things in part and things in entirety. I desire to understand my self, my spirit, the highest powers and hopefully one or two other people over the course of a lifetime. The understanding I speak of is not merely an intellectual, mental acknowledgement. It is an understanding which encompasses the spirit, nature or purpose of something. This understanding causes me to appreciate, respect, learn, improve and connect.

Often my quest involves devoting thoughts, time, reading, discussions, writing and observing to obtain understanding. This is a process and takes a lot of time so on occasion, I'll ”just put it out there” and have a frustrated-type conversation when I need some understanding right now yesterday.

Help me understand! I need to! I want to! Why all the secrecy? It could just as easily be a glass clearly instead of a glass darkly! Let me see everything and live to tell it and even longer to show it! Share understanding the way a knowing and loving parent forms the foundation in their infant. If I don't understand more, then what more is there? What I'm trying to say is, what's the point? I need to know more about what you're doing and what I should be up to so I'm not doing a good job but not doing any good. I need you to work with me and trust me on this one. Have faith in me! I just wanna understand something. If you control the big picture, and I am my own individual brushstroke, how is that supposed to work, especially when we all have free will but limited understanding? How can the big picture not be an abstraction when puposely-placed bold strokes of clarity are met with purposefully-placed fresh strokes of disparity? Give me something! You've got the power! Surely you can teach me something without sending me through another trial, tribulation or waiting period! You said ask! All that, “you have to go through something” mess is for nonbelievers. Please! If you can open heavens, earth and hearts, certainly you can open plain me to understanding in an instant. I'm telling ya, me not tryin' ta resist nuthin! Here me now. If you're the one putting images of Jesus and angels in places and causing statues to cry, please stop. That stuff don't matter none. It's time for another clear-cut miracle. Something simple, powerful, revealing, convincing and everyday. A miracle witnessed and understandable by millions and either caught on tape and put on the Internet or that spreads quicker than words from lying lips. It could be as simple as, the next time those lips part and speak, shut them for a season so the last lie spoken creates the type of fear that halts destructive behavior instead of helps it. But why waste it on fools. Interrupt regularly scheduled programming and bring back some folks who never should have been taken from us. Let's see some babies saved, some quality of lives raised and a physical sickness or two erased. Some tangible stuff, not the promise of blessings and paradise. That's all I'm saying. Make one of the things among all that are possible, true, now, and make it evident. I know that with just another peek at the things I seek with the light cast by your lamp, understanding will glisten. If it does already and my vision is blighted and my brush misguided, teach me to listen with a renewed sight.


  1. Although I am a christian, I often wonder why things happen the way they do but then that's where my faith in Jesus comes in. I find that if I put my faith and trust in Him, I have a peace within my heart and an understanding that everything is not meant for me to understand. I cannot describe the feeling of accepting Jesus into my heart but when I did, I could see things that I could not see before. So I suggest to anyone, when you hear that little small voice speaking to your heart, or that little knock at your hearts the door and let Him in. It joy won't regret it.

  2. Belief in something greater than man is essential to the advancement of our evolution. Whatever name that higher power is called, it should be able to increase our understanding here on Earth. Not understanding everything but understanding a lot more that helps us individually pursue our given purposes by growing and learning and striving for self-improvement and overcoming limitations and putting fear that freezes behind us and not allowing a society to dictate the actions of our lives more than the Spirit.

  3. For me, that higher power is called Jesus. The way I look at it is when I was a child my parents might tell me no, but it was because they loved me and knew what was best for me although I didn't understand at the time. It is the same with our heavenly father. He knows what is best for us. We just have to put our trust in Him. He will never let us down.

  4. Will we always be children? Will we always need our parents to think for us and never grow in understanding? How are we supposed to go from the milk to the meat unless we mature in understanding? We are told repeatedly to seek understanding and wisdom. It must be possible to understand more.

  5. Seek and ye shall find. Understanding comes from reading God's word. If you ask God for more understanding, He will give it to you. When I first got saved (born again) I was only about 10 years old, but I had alot of questions and needed answers. I opened up a bible and starting reading about the life of Jesus. I remember that night like it was yesterday. Once I realized what Jesus went through for me. My heart was broken. I repented of my sins and received Him as my Lord and Savior. I was changed instantly. I no longer thought it was all about me, me, me but it's all about Him. It hasn't always been easy but Jesus will stick closer to you than a father, mother, sister or brother. When bad times come...who do you turn to? I turn to Jesus, couldn't imagine life without him.
    God has plans for you....surrender unto Him.
    Then you will understand and find the answers you are looking for.

  6. I appreciate the conversation. Let me try to narrow this down.

    So you're saying the only way or the best way to get understanding for our lives is through Christianity?

  7. It's the only way. The whole duty of man is to serve God and keep his commandments. God wants you to come to Him willingly. He won't force you to serve Him. Think of it this way...You love your son and you want him to love you but if you had to force him to give you a hug and tell you that he loves you, then what would it mean to you?? Nothing. But when he comes to you on his own freewill and says Dad, I love you and wraps his arms around you and gives you a big ole does that make you feel?It is the same with our heavenly father. God is standing with His arms opened wide just waiting for you to come to Him. Just look up!!
    Another way to look at it...if you and I were on a cliff and you fell off and was hanging by the edge and I reached down for you to grab my hand...would you not grab it? Spiritually speaking, it's the are hanging from a cliff and Jesus is reaching down to you and waiting for you to reach out to Him. Just LOOK UP!! We are only a breath away from eternity and there's only two places to go. God will not force himself on you. You have to choose. You have been running from God for awhile now because you want logical explanations and try to reason everything out but you need to step out on faith and just believe. Stop running from God. He's calling you....I feel it!

  8. If the only way to get understanding for our lives is through Christianity, I'd like to make sure we're discussing the same thing.

    What is understanding? Be as concise as possible.

  9. I can sum it up in one word...JESUS!
    Jesus died for you and me so that we may have eternal life. To be saved you must believe. Once you accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior, you will feel a peace that you have never known. You will be a brand new man. You may look the same on the outside but you will not be the same on the inside. You won't think the same, talk the same or act the same. Jesus will dwell in you...that's when understanding comes...I once was blind but now I see. We still will have troubles and trials down thru life but with God that's when our weaknesses are made strong. We don't always need God to remove our mountain but just give us strength to climb. Jesus loves you...He wants to save you...good and evil is put before you...whom will you choose?

  10. To choose Jesus willingly, we must have understanding to make such a choice and not just that it's eternal life and other benefits. There's no reason to believe in those things except they are in the Bible. There must be more to give non-believers a reason to believe, a way to understand. To exercise free will you must have a free mind.

    Going back to the benefits of Jesus and the peace that passeth all understanding, I bet you if most Christians lost their jobs they wouldn't be talking about peace or feeling peace. Also, if understanding comes after believing in Jesus, why are there so many backsliders, lukewarmers, pewwarmers, world conformers and talent unperformers that have been saved? Evidently they just don't get it. Yet a non-believer should expect to get it!?

    If I must first have faith, trust and belief in Jesus to get understanding then why wouldn't I use those three things to choose anything. Many Gods and many choices use this same approach. Every scamming person out there uses this approach. Money uses this approach. Money at least shows proof of its power which is why there are many believers. Every church and every tithing Christian understands the power of money.

    The idea that someone can go from not believing to believing, without any understanding in between is a contrary notion to our free will and free thinking ability given to us by Jesus. If Jesus wants us to choose him, why would he say just believe? That is a corruption of thought. A choice is based on information and a good choice is based on good information.

    This means that you must have all pertinent and relevant information before you can make the proper decision. If you don't, you are subject to fully believing in half-truths.

  11. You've got it all WRONG! You may not be a believer now but five seconds after you'll be a believer. Only then it will be too late. Just like the rich man...look it up.
    I don't know whatelse to say to convince you. I just hope you change your mind before it's too late.
    God knows I tried.....

  12. When I wrote the initial post I was the frustrated one.

    God is all powerful. God is omni-everything. He gives believers understanding yet believers can't explain basic questions from someone seeking understanding.

    God wants me to believe yet won't explain anything to me even though I plead. God's plan is all about the whole duty of man serving Him yet plans on keeping me in the dark until I die?

    Yet all the rest of the way in this life we are to use our minds and thoughts to make decisions and pursue education and even study the word to show ourselves approved. To show what? That we can read? Can't someone walk me through it at least halfway starting from the common place you suggested, that understanding only comes from Jesus?

    How do you know I got it wrong? From all the people who have died or just from the Bible?

    Do me a favor. Explain God, Jesus and/or eternal life/death to me without referring to the Bible? In other words, how do you know any of it is true or exists?

    In other words, if all Bibles were removed for future generations yet the current generation retained their knowledge of the Bible, would Christianity have a weaker and weaker leg to stand on as memory of all that's in the Bible faded?

  13. I know it's true because He lives in me..I am a witness!!
    You say you want understanding before you can believe and I'm saying you must believe before you get understanding.

    You say there is no reason to believe in those things except they are in the Bible. Well, that's the only reason to believe in those things is because it's in the Bible. The Bible is God's holy word. You will not find any lies in the Bible.

    Benefits?? The Bible says it rains on the just as well as the unjust. Bad things happen..such as losing your job, sicknesses and etc.. The difference is...for the nonbeliever, you have nobody to turn to. But for a believer...we cast ours cares on Jesus and He makes our burden light. He will never leave you or forsake you.

    Let me try to explain about backsliders. Once you get saved, there is a peace, joy and love that fills your heart. Now God doesn't just save someone and that's all there is to it. It is a personal relationship between you and God, sorta like a marriage. A marriage takes effort. You see we can't just accept Christ and then set Him on a bookshelf and go on about our lives. God has to be first in our lives. Often times after we get saved that is what happens, such as, not going to church. Once we miss a service it gets easier and easier to miss. The bible says not to forsake the assembling of ourselves together. We need to go to church because that's how we grow in the Lord, we gain strength from our brothers and sisters in Christ. Church is how we get fed, spiritually speaking, if we do not hear the word, we starve. So once that happens we get weak. Satan knows our weaknesses and he attacks. Temptations come and when we are found in that weak state of mind, it's harder to resist those temptations. People get all caught up in their own drama and end up drifting from God and the next thing ya know, BACKSLIDE..It's not because it's God's fault. But it's because people make mistakes. Jesus is willing to forgive..all you have to do is ask.
    Behold I stand at the door and knock, if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him and will sup with him and he with me. Rev3:20
    Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. Proverbs 3:5
    Jesus said to Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed; blessed are they that have not seen and yet have believed. John 20:29
    Read Luke 16:19 about the rich man, when he Hell he lifted his eyes. Jesus made a way of escape for us. By rejecting Him, when you die, you will spend eternity in Hell. Even if it was for a million years, you would at least have something to look forward to...but it's not, it's forever and ever and that's a long long time. If there were any other way to escape Hell then Jesus would not have had to come and die on that cross, but He did because He loves us.
    So please try to believe, it's a simple thing to's not hard. I really can't figure out why is it so hard for you to believe, have faith? You seem bitter towards God...when in reality, it is sin to blame. Satan is the father of lies...don't fall for it.

  14. Our ways is not His ways. Our thoughts are not His thoughts. For His thoughts are much greater than ours. God knows what He is doing. We walk by faith not by sight. I can't see the air that I breathe but I know it's there.
    I'll be honest with you, when I read your last two posts, I told God that there was no hope for you, that you just didn't get it. But God says NO.
    That there is still hope. As long as there is life in your body, there is still hope.
    Satan will pollute your mind if you will let him. Satan will always be on his job. There is constant warfare with good and evil. Satan is seeking to devour and destroy. Then he will sit back and laugh at you. Listen to your heart. Please tell me what you are feeling. Do you feel a tug at your heart or a still small voice telling you come. That's God!

  15. My only reason for discussing God is following the path you suggested. If you had suggested the Devil is the path to understanding, I would follow it and try to understand it and question your statements. If you had suggested understanding comes from experience I would explore it.

    When it comes to God, it takes more than belief. Demons believe. I could quote many scriptures to show there's an inconsistency in your premise about belief and understanding; however my goal is to try to achieve understanding and not to believe or disbelieve the Bible.

    Many people understand a great deal in general, about life and about the Bible who are not Christians. God is everywhere. God reaches and speaks to people who have never heard of the Bible.

    Stories and parables and lessons in the Bible can be understood by non-Christians. They hear lessons and sermons and understand simply because they are open to understanding.

    You're a 30 year Christian. By now you should have heard numerous lessons about the story of "fish and loaves." By now you should have received a lot of understanding from this story alone. Witness to me and tell me what is the lesson or lessons of this story.

  16. That story tells me that God can meet any need that we may have. To us it would be impossible to feed over five thousand people with just five loaves and two fishes, but nothing is impossible for God. Likewise with any other situation in our lives. God can supply all our needs even though it seems impossible to us.

    So yes, I am saying that understanding comes from are you ready to explore it?? Come, I'd like to introduce you to my friend, Jesus!

  17. For me this is not about converting to Usiku or converting to Christ.

    What were the specific lessons for the people who were present on that day? The disciples? What was the subtext? The subplots? The mini-stories?

  18. The disciples and the multitudes of people followed Jesus on his travels. They were hungry and Jesus showed his compassion and fed them. Little is much when God is in it! This was one of many miracles and it proved to the people and to His disciples that He was truly the Son of God.

  19. Is it possible, by the way Jesus went about performing this miracle, that it was intentionally done to teach his disciples an important lesson about caring for the flock and the nonbelievers?

  20. Yes, I believe so. Notice how He did it in an orderly way in companies of 50's and 100's (Mark 6:39-40)
    Also, He was not wasteful. He commanded that the left-overs be gathered up.

  21. So tell me, what did you think about the sounds of hell from the diggings in Siberia? Do you think that it could be possibly true? Some have said the microphone should have melted. But just what if God allowed that to happen to warn people that hell is real. What if that's the tangible proof that you mentioned in your first post...but we still continue to ignore it. Just like the rich man asked to send Lazarus to warn his five brothers not to come to this place of torment. He thought that if someone from the dead went unto them, that they would repent. But he was told if they hear not Moses and the other prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.(Luke 16:27-31)
    Those sounds of hell can be found on youtube but I just wanted you to hear that sermon mainly. It's something to really think about.

  22. I don't intend to listen to that. Your summary tells me what I need to know. I don't believe it. In general, digging one of the coldest places to find the hottest place seems unlikely. If there is a hell, it's everywhere. I believe there is too much emotionalism and fear used to try to get people to believe things. This is used constantly all over the world. Where are sounds from Heaven? Where are the dead Christians who have come back to report. Why doesn't God allow that? Is God trying to scare us into loving him?

    So if even the Bible says, someone reporting from Hell won't get people to believe, then I disbelieve these are sounds from Hell?

    How can you be so easily twisted? You should have dismissed this by now after considering all information and allowing the Spirit to guide you towards understanding.

  23. I never said that those sounds were real and never said they weren't...I'm just saying, what if...BUT I do know that hell is real because the Bible tells me so. If you don't believe what the Bible says, then you are going to be in for a rude awakening someday!

  24. The Bible tells you the sounds are not real.

  25. If you would have listened to it, you would know that it's not saying someone reported from hell, to let people know that it is real. It was only sounds of a loud roar of voices screaming. I never said somebody reported from hell. I wanted you to listen to the SERMON!!! If you would listen to it, you just might find some answers that you are looking for.
    I can't figure you some of your posts, you sound as though you are a believer and in other posts, you sound as an atheist.So which is it? And yet you say that I'm the twisted one???? You said you were willing to explore and yet you decided it's a bunch of hogwash and you didn't even listen to it. So how is that exploring??? Those sounds may not be real because it's not bible but the man's sermon is bible. Listen to his sermon...I am just trying to help you.

  26. The basis of this conversation was re-focused to discuss the premise: Christianity is the only way to get understanding.

    This conversation has provided enough information to arrive at an answer.